Well, it would be an assignment I'd have to turn down. I am active and have a testimony - but I also believe that there is nothing wrong with two people who want to commit to each to be able to do so. I think this YouTube Video, while the rpesentation is a little silly, makes a good point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QIEzx8aHuY Mostly I try to stay out of the discussions about it. Now that it's legal here it isn't a bit discussion anymore...and it seems life has gone no pretty undisturbed.
I can understand why the Church needs to vocalize a stance on the issue. If everyone was a loving as the apostles and the saviour in their opposition then that would be something. There are a couple of problems though - 1. Often the opposition is neither loving or even informed and becomes a reason to feel good about discrimination. 2. The world's understanding and current practices in regards to fidelity, morality and marriage are so far from the ideal of celestial marriage that there is not a common benchmark for those not of our faith to reference. Marriage between man and women IS ordained by God, but there are a lot of other things in this world that are common practices that are not. I personally believe that a samesex couple who loves, honours, and is faithful to each other is better than a lot of hetersexuals sleeping around. I for one am glad the issue is not on the forefront of the political landscape of Alberta.
Toughie... I read Sarah's blog post and also of course the letter. I think that Jeff had a point with the in the 60s and in the 70s bit. I feel like the church makes decisions based on the times. Society wasn't ready for African Americans to have the priesthood therefore the revelation wasn't given until society was ready. As... far as I know, which is limited I’m sure. I very well could be wrong on that, so don't quote me.
As for myself personally I agree with the other comments. Especially the one that says they agree more with same-sex committed relationships than hetero individuals sleeping around. I do however have an old fashioned view on things which I believe come directly from my dad (the ultimate homo-phobe) that sometimes not always same-sex relationships often come with drugs and disease and I don't think it'd be good for that to be running rampant, but as a complete contradiction to that point most of the same-sex relationships are already doing what they would do sexually if they were married anyway so it doesn't really even make that point valid whatsoever. (Am I still being followed? This is why they don't ask me to speak in sacrament)
It comes down to I don't think the church should be taking a stand for either side. I think the church should do as they always do, encourage members to get out and vote and be involved in the community and also politics but the church should not tell us how to vote because that would make some members, like Sarah said, leave the church and truly that would be sad.
But is the church saying how to vote or just Sarah's particular bishop or just wards and stakes in California or did church headquarters send out a letter to be read over the pulpit? That's my ultimate question.
To answer abby's question... the church headquarters did send a letter to be read over the pulpits. Yesterday in our new ward they passed forms collecting money in favor of prop 8 and also sign up sheets to go precinct walking. Our sunday school teacher spent about 30 minutes asking people to volunteer. It seems to be a big thing here, I just don't say anything anymore because everyone has the mentality that you are either with us or against us, and that's simply not the case. Because not voting is like voting NO on protecting marriage according to most members.
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Well, it would be an assignment I'd have to turn down. I am active and have a testimony - but I also believe that there is nothing wrong with two people who want to commit to each to be able to do so. I think this YouTube Video, while the rpesentation is a little silly, makes a good point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QIEzx8aHuY
Mostly I try to stay out of the discussions about it. Now that it's legal here it isn't a bit discussion anymore...and it seems life has gone no pretty undisturbed.
my thoughts exactly. and there's nothing more to say, you said it.
I can understand why the Church needs to vocalize a stance on the issue. If everyone was a loving as the apostles and the saviour in their opposition then that would be something. There are a couple of problems though - 1. Often the opposition is neither loving or even informed and becomes a reason to feel good about discrimination. 2. The world's understanding and current practices in regards to fidelity, morality and marriage are so far from the ideal of celestial marriage that there is not a common benchmark for those not of our faith to reference. Marriage between man and women IS ordained by God, but there are a lot of other things in this world that are common practices that are not. I personally believe that a samesex couple who loves, honours, and is faithful to each other is better than a lot of hetersexuals sleeping around. I for one am glad the issue is not on the forefront of the political landscape of Alberta.
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Toughie... I read Sarah's blog post and also of course the letter. I think that Jeff had a point with the in the 60s and in the 70s bit. I feel like the church makes decisions based on the times. Society wasn't ready for African Americans to have the priesthood therefore the revelation wasn't given until society was ready. As... far as I know, which is limited I’m sure. I very well could be wrong on that, so don't quote me.
As for myself personally I agree with the other comments. Especially the one that says they agree more with same-sex committed relationships than hetero individuals sleeping around. I do however have an old fashioned view on things which I believe come directly from my dad (the ultimate homo-phobe) that sometimes not always same-sex relationships often come with drugs and disease and I don't think it'd be good for that to be running rampant, but as a complete contradiction to that point most of the same-sex relationships are already doing what they would do sexually if they were married anyway so it doesn't really even make that point valid whatsoever. (Am I still being followed? This is why they don't ask me to speak in sacrament)
It comes down to I don't think the church should be taking a stand for either side. I think the church should do as they always do, encourage members to get out and vote and be involved in the community and also politics but the church should not tell us how to vote because that would make some members, like Sarah said, leave the church and truly that would be sad.
But is the church saying how to vote or just Sarah's particular bishop or just wards and stakes in California or did church headquarters send out a letter to be read over the pulpit? That's my ultimate question.
To answer abby's question... the church headquarters did send a letter to be read over the pulpits. Yesterday in our new ward they passed forms collecting money in favor of prop 8 and also sign up sheets to go precinct walking. Our sunday school teacher spent about 30 minutes asking people to volunteer. It seems to be a big thing here, I just don't say anything anymore because everyone has the mentality that you are either with us or against us, and that's simply not the case.
Because not voting is like voting NO on protecting marriage according to most members.
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